Friday, November 17, 2006

Burqa Ban











The Dutch cabinet has backed a proposal by the country's immigration minister to ban Muslim women from wearing the burqa in public places.


The reason behind this proposal is that the burqa represents a security risk. Literally anybody could be hidden behind the burqa which covers every part of the body including the eyes (usually a transparent viel). Attention has turned to the burqa because police authorities have become concerned that a terrorist could use one for concealment.

The burqa would be banned by law in the street, and in trains, schools, buses and the law courts.

The country’s hardline Integration Minister, Rita Verdonk, gave warning that the “time of cosy tea-drinking” with Muslim groups had passed and that natives and immigrants should have the courage to be critical of each other. She recently canceled a meeting with Muslim leaders who refused to shake her hand because she was a woman.

Brave woman, the Netherlands has seen several murders such as film-maker Theo van Gogh by Islamic immigrants for far less.

One Islamic activist stated “Women have a very strong opinion about the burqa. If you ban it they won’t leave the house. It is not a good way to integrate and emancipate Muslim women.

Integrate? This isn't something that most Muslims are interested in anyways.

Famile Arslan, a Dutch Muslim lawyer stated "A country once known for its tolerance is now becoming known for its ignorance."

I wonder if he knows Turkey and Tunisia also ban wearing the burqa for security reasons?














***Please check Brookes NeoCon Command Center for an interesting and telling radio segment from my favorite Islamic group..No not CAIR but the Islamic Thinkers Society

36 Comments:

At 10:56 AM, Blogger Steve Harkonnen said...

It's good to hear this. Thanks for posting on this topic. I am sure the Dutch are all for it.

 
At 11:34 AM, Blogger Brooke said...

"One Islamic activist stated “Women have a very strong opinion about the burqa. If you ban it they won’t leave the house. It is not a good way to integrate and emancipate Muslim women.",

WHAT?!? EMANCIPATE women by making them wear a frickin' bedsheet so as not to offend men?!?

The women won't leave their homes without a burqa because they'd be beaten by their husbands/fathers.

So much for emancipation. Spit!

Good on Verdonk for not seeing that woman-hating caveman who would not shake her hand!

(Where the frick are the women's rights groups, BTW?)

We don't have to tolerate Muslim intolerance!

 
At 11:49 AM, Blogger American Crusader said...

brooke...you obviously have strong feelings on this subject. Are Islamic women afraid to take the freedoms afforded them in free countries or do they prefer to live like chattel?

 
At 1:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet you that Ducky is cross dressing again.

 
At 6:13 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

The burqa is a symbol of enslavement. It also indicates that at least the husband in the household is the most fundamentalist of Muslims. That particular classification indeed poses a security risk.

I love this sentence:
[Rita Verkonk]recently canceled a meeting with Muslim leaders who refused to shake her hand because she was a woman.

LOL at Beak's comment, and it got me to wondering....Could OBL hiding in a burqa over in Pakistan or Afghanistan?

 
At 9:02 PM, Blogger Steve Harkonnen said...

Burqas have risen in popularity amongst the Muslims. I don't recall seeing hardly any Burqas, for example, in Bahrain, but do remember seeing a lot of them when I was in Karachi Pakistan.

 
At 5:04 AM, Blogger Obob said...

In most societies, even ours, you will see a rise in exyremist views when they feel threatened. The cowardly Muslim men who force their women to wear burkas are afraid of change.
They fear the eventual independance of their women who may wise up and want to occasionnly speak first or walk nex to them. What floors me are the feminists who forsake monica lewinsky and have forsaken these women. I would especially love to hear from the pro-choice crews. And then if they are the slightest bit atheist or agnostic. As always, the silence of the left is deafening.

 
At 6:06 AM, Blogger Obob said...

I forgot, AC ... Oral Roberts?

 
At 7:58 AM, Blogger nanc said...

have you seen "farmer's fashion report"? highlarious:

http://farmersletters.blogspot.com/

 
At 8:49 AM, Blogger Brooke said...

AC: It is, IMO, a combination. Perhaps they want to, but are afraid of what would happen to them, and they have also been trained since birth to view themselves as sub-humans and to "know their place."

AOW is correct, it is akin to slavery.

 
At 8:50 AM, Blogger Brooke said...

The only time I expect I shall be wrapped in a bedsheet is after my death!

 
At 9:54 AM, Blogger Fight The Good Fight! said...

I gots to admit they look funny.

It makes sense in the fact that they could easily conceal a bomb under it.
(the burqa)
FTGF!

 
At 2:08 PM, Blogger Gayle said...

It's my guess that many women would like to be free of the burqa where others would not. To some I imagine it makes them feel safe from the probing eyes of men; to others I'm sure they see it as a form of imprisonment. I know I would feel that way, but I wasn't raised from birth the way they are raised either, thank God! So, whether they want to be free of it or not depends on the personality of the woman under it, a personality none of us infidels will ever get to know because they wear the da*n thing!

I used to see what I assume were "women" wearing burqas when I shopped in Temple, Texas. I haven't seen any in months. I believe they are afraid to come out of their homes because of all that's going on, so outlawing the burqa here would not entrap any of them. They've already entrapped themselves by remaining silent and not voicing their supposed outrage regarding the extremists, which still leads me to ask: are there any moderate muslims? How could we possibly know?

 
At 3:17 PM, Anonymous Jay said...

AC,
If they banned it in Israel you can be sure that the UN, Amnesty International and the Human Rights Watch would be all over it.

 
At 6:34 PM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said...

Hiya AC..Jay is right and it is a huge security risk so if they insist on wearing it..let them do it in Saudi Arabia!

 
At 1:07 PM, Blogger Elizabeth said...

Palestinian women don't wear burkas. In fact women in most Muslim countries don't wear burkas.

One of the things I find missing in the commentary on this blog is the fact that the U.S. government supported and in many cases engineered the spread of Islamic fundamentalism. We supported the mujahideen in Aghanistan against the Soviets. Israel, our ally, initially supported Hamas as a counterweight to the Palestinian Authority. Our support of the corrupt dictatorship of Hosni Mubarak in Egypt fosters support for his main opposition, the Muslim brotherhood. Our alliance with Saudi Arabia support the most fundamentalist regime on the earth. If you want to look at a guilty party for the spread of Islamic fundamentalism, look in the mirror.

 
At 1:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Elizabeth

This is another example of your gross ignorance. Lost in the mix was the Soviet butchery of 1,000,000
Afghans. Were we supposed to turn a blind eye to the Killing Fields again.

Most of the US aid went to Ahmad Shah Massoud who was the first victim of the 9-11 campaign. You really need to stop reading Mother Jones and buy a clue.

As a typical deranged far leftist you are ignorant of history. The Muslim Brotherhood has been in Egypt in the days of Commie stooge Nasser. Did Soviet support create the Muslim brotherhood. The vast array of regimes in the Arab world are corrupt. Does US support prop up Syria, Lybia or any other of the thug regimes. Like a deranged leftist you only mention regimes that are allies.

As far as the fashion trends among Pseudostinian women, read up. Ugly Pseudostinian women are now wearing suicide belts. Maybe the fashionistas will put designer labels on them.

Sorry there Elizabeth, but I know the far left playbook better than you.

1 Blame America first
2 Blame America's allies
3 Airbrush America's enemies
4 Whitewash or pervert American history.

 
At 2:16 PM, Blogger Fight The Good Fight! said...

...'the fact that the U.S. government supported and in many cases engineered the spread of Islamic fundamentalism'

Fact?
That's an unsubstantiated statement.

Engineered?
You do realize what the Quran's teachings are right?

Rediculous.
FTGF!

 
At 7:11 PM, Blogger Elizabeth said...

"The Muslim Brotherhood has been in Egypt in the days of Commie stooge Nasser."

But they are now growing in popularity.

You can clearly see around the world that the fundamentalists gain power when they can capitalize on resentment of the U.S. support of dictators and of Israeli aggression.

Haven't you ever wondered why Islamic fundamentalism wasn't a major topic of concern decades ago? Why do you think people are attracted to Islamic fundamentalism? Have you ever pondered these questions?

 
At 1:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Elizabeth

This perception is in your deluded anti- American mind. America is nowhere near Syria or Algeria and similar groups are active there.

As far as why people are attracted to Islamic fundamentalism this has zero to do with poverty or the USA.
You can look outside your office at all the mental defectives who are still attracted to Communism today after 100,000,000 have died. If your profession was run properly people like Madea Benjamin, Bill Ayers and Noam Chomsky would have entire forms of mental illness named after them.

The USA doesn't support Syria and there is a growing Islamic radical movement there. The USA has no involvement in Algeria and the problem is there. We have been gone
from Somalia for over a decade and the problem is there.

Listen to your peer Dr Sultan. This is not radicalism, it is Islam. The problem is you keep defining Islam in a context that is wrong. Islam should not be compared to any form of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism as one of the above seek to create Utopia and global hegemony in this world. There is no deliniation between politics and religion in Islam.

 
At 1:36 AM, Blogger David Schantz said...

The truth is in the eyes, if you can see them. What is hidden under there?

God Bless America, God Save The Republic

 
At 2:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Elizabeth

Thank you for saying the code words Israeli agression. Whom are the Israelis agressive against? Against a homicidal people who seek to slaughter them. One can not negotiate with people who want your nonexistence.

Thank you for a predctable response right out of the far left play book.

Shall you blame rape victims because their outfits were too revealing. How about blaming those blacks for Jim Crow laws. What will you do for an encore Elizabeth? Do not try the poverty causes terrorism bit either.

 
At 6:15 AM, Blogger American Crusader said...

Another reason you might find that commentary missing Elizabeth is because it wasn't the subject of this post. The subject was the Dutch government banning burkas.

By the way.. The Muslim Brotherhood has been around since the 1920s, Nassar took power in 1954.

 
At 10:39 AM, Blogger Elizabeth said...

There really isn't much point in responding to the commenters who invariably respond to anything I write with name-calling, irrelevancies, and rants.

However in case there are some intelligent people still reading, in regards to:

"The USA doesn't support Syria and there is a growing Islamic radical movement there. The USA has no involvement in Algeria and the problem is there."

Algeria was a French colony and the Algerians were treated horribly by the French and thus rebelled in a bloody war. Thus it's not surprising that some Algerians might harbor anti-Western views. As for Syria, the U.S. supports Israel which has Syria in its sights. This makes some Syrians hate the U.S. and their attraction to Islamic fundamentalism could be spurred by this hatred.

 
At 10:45 AM, Blogger Elizabeth said...

Here's a case in point from the NY Times:

"Sheik Nasrallah used his televised appearance to try to win political support by playing to the deep resentment many Lebanese harbor against the United States..."

And why do they resent the U.S.? Could it be because U.S. made cluster bombs were used by Israel (possibly in violation of an agreement with the U.S.) to carpet southern Lebanon and are still killing children? Yet despite Israel's longtime violations of the Lebanese border, the use of the cluster bombs, the continuing ceasefire violations, still no word of protest from the U.S.?

The world laughs in contempt at the way the U.S. government is led by the nose by Israel.

 
At 12:47 PM, Blogger Brooke said...

Elizabeth, as AC pointed out, you are not discussing the post at hand.

But, to entertain your comment, I find your anti-semitic attitude appalling.

No doubt, you have heard Islamo-fascists refer to Israel as the "little Satan", and to the U.S. as the "great Satan.

We (the US) need to defend Israel because the terrorists, by the above comparison, have made it clear that destroying Israel is nothing but a way station to destroying us.

 
At 2:48 PM, Blogger Elizabeth said...

"the terrorists, by the above comparison, have made it clear that destroying Israel is nothing but a way station to destroying us."

Terrorists want to attack the U.S. because they see it as supporting Israel's aggressive expansion, and because they see it as occupying Muslim land, and supporting secular dictators that oppress Muslims.

They certainly wouldn't believe that destroying Israel would be a blow to the U.S....how do you figure that? We're not dependent on Israel for anything--they don't have any key resources on which we depend.

 
At 2:58 PM, Blogger Freedomnow said...

Elizabeth,

I absolutely love your quotes...

"in most Muslim countries don't wear burkas."

How many Christians or Jews wear burkas?

How many Christian or Jewish suicide bombers are there?

How many Christian or Jewish cities are segregated like Mecca and Medina?

Why dont you ever blame Muslims when they do something bad and assign the guilt to the US or Israel?

Responsibility is a difficult issue for the children of the Middle East. They blame everything on the Jews and the US.

That is the source of their hate. They have been given a ticket to ride and are using it.

Why do they hate us?...so they dont have to blame themselves for their own problems.

You wouldnt mourn the passing of Israel because you hate it so much. That is why you think it is so important to the US. Fortunately, our government disagrees with you.

 
At 5:07 PM, Blogger Freedomnow said...

oops, "That is why you think it is so UNimportant to the US."

 
At 6:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Elizabeth

Lets go over the hypocrisy of your statements. France has been out of Algeria how long? The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in 1920 and grew through the commie Nasser years. The brutal Alawite thugs killed 20,000 in Hamma in Syria. These things happen independent of Israel. Would you like to blame similar groups in Bangladesh and Pakistan on Israel as well. The USA is not the center of the world and your half baked ideas make zero sense.

Now you seem to be outraged by cluster bombs. Were you as outraged by rockets aimed at civilian areas with plastic ball bearings dripped in rat poisoning. Blaming Israel for self defense is akin to blaming blacks for being lynched.

Scratch a leftist smell an anti-semite.

 
At 8:44 AM, Blogger Farmer John said...

I think the Dutch need a national dress code that shuns/ignores all women under 50 NOT wearing a mid-thigh-length skirt or any man wearing a headress. That'll teach 'em to NOT shake hands.

No leg or no bare head, no service!

 
At 10:15 AM, Blogger Elizabeth said...

Indiscriminate mass murder of civilians is not "self-defense."

Oh by the way--the Nazis described the holocaust as self-defense.

 
At 10:20 AM, Blogger Elizabeth said...

"Why dont you ever blame Muslims when they do something bad and assign the guilt to the US or Israel?"

In the midst of your diatribe, there is a semblance of a point that I will try to respond to:

First of all, I prefer reason and solutions to simple blame.
I'm pointing out the U.S. and Israeli roles because OUR TAX DOLLARS SUPPORT THEM. Our tax dollars don't support what Hamas, or Hezbollah do (although interestingly, our tax dollars used to support Saddam Hussein). Our elected officials agreed to sell cluster bombs to Israel (and to let our own troops use them in Iraq). On the other hand, we don't elect Hezbollah and Muslim brotherhood legislators.

I believe in cleaning up one's own backyard before pointing fingers. Come to think of it, isn't there a passage in the Bible about that, for those of you who call yourselves Christians here?

 
At 12:31 PM, Blogger Brooke said...

"They certainly wouldn't believe that destroying Israel would be a blow to the U.S....how do you figure that? We're not dependent on Israel for anything--they don't have any key resources on which we depend."

Re-read my post, Elizabeth. They do not take us as "behind" Israel, but rather, as two enemies.

"Oh by the way--the Nazis described the holocaust as self-defense."

So, too, do the Islamo-fascists use the self-defense cry against innocent "Zionists" that they murder in "suicide" attacks in the marketplace.

You are an anti-Semite, a sexist, and a dhimmi. Be gone, foul troll.

 
At 3:51 PM, Blogger Freedomnow said...

Elizabeth,

Do you have any other points, except that we should offer aid to terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah?

I know one day you are going to say something intelligent, its just not today...

 
At 6:26 AM, Blogger American Crusader said...

Our tax dollars used to support Palestine before Hamas took over and refused to recognize Israel.

 

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