SURPRISE!
CAIR is suing! That's right, CAIR, who coordinated last December's flying Imam debacle, has decided to sue US Airways.
The Council on American Islamic Relations is representing the six imams who were handcuffed and taken off the United Airways flight in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in November.
Handcuffed only because they refused to leave peacefully. It also makes better pictures and strengthens accusations of brutality.
Let's recall that the imams were leaving Minneapolis after meeting with CAIR's Congressman Keith Ellison. Also present at Ellison's meeting was was Imam Dr. Omar Shahin - who has been linked to fund raising activities for al-Qaeda and Hamas.
'The imams say their removal from the flight was based on racism and religious intolerance,' said a statement from CAIR released Monday before Tuesday's press conference.
Racism and religious intolerance. Two of CAIR's favorite charges. Perhaps the only two that are used more often are 'bigotry' and 'Islamophobia'.
But none of these charges fit. This orchestrated event was a military probe. A probe designed to test airport security, reaction times and attitudes of post 911 flyers.
Now that CAIR has received as much information as possible and now that they have used this publicity to cower other airlines for fear of being labeled bigots and racist(in case of a real attack in the future)..now it's time to get PAID.
I would call this a successful operation for CAIR.
posted by American Crusader @ 2:18 PM
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It was a clear publicity stunt arranged by CAIR. Of course the next time a plane is hijacked ............ Well maybe it will be by one of the friends of the Duck seeking to go to Hugo.
Of course one could just buy a ticket.
It would be nice if they could check people wearing Che T shirts but that would make sense.
Be nice to see the judge grant a summary dismissal and cite the CAIR attorneys for harrassment.
But we'll have to wait and see what lunacy shakes out of a trial.
Well, technically, even though CAIR will back out from discovery after the ordeal, it's a mini-victory for them indeed, because they gain notoriety from this.
However, the days of CAIR are numbered. More and more of them will be arrested for terrorist ties, and hopefully, our government will declare CAIR a terror group.
How many Christians or Jews file discrimination suits in Muslim countries?
Hmmm...
Since that doesnt happen very often, does that mean Muslim countries dont discriminate?
Since minorities frequently take such grievances to court in the U.S., I suggest that means they have the ability to voice their grievances. Which in turn means that there are checks and balances against discrimination in the U.S. that are not present in the Muslim world.
Yet it is Americans that are exclusively accused of discrimination.
Groups like CAIR and the ACLU are engaged in a campaign of deception.
FN said "How many Christians or Jews file discrimination suits in Muslim countries?"
Your right in that it has nothing to do with the numbers. Statistics can be used to prove just about anything. The fact that there aren't many discrimination suits in Muslim countries is that they are not allowed to file any...just trying would likely get them killed.
I'm hoping speed is right in that CAIR will lose its civil rights status and declared a terrorist organization..which it is.
Funding terrorist is just the same as shooting the bullets.
check this out, a.c.
wonder when cair will take up this cause?
el toro mierde!
If there is any sanity left in this country, the case will be dismissed summarily.
CAIR ought to be rounded up for the terrorists that they are; who else would do front work for HAMAS and the like?
CAIR in Canada:
Ottawa, Canada – March 14, 2007) - The Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-CAN) today said the firing of a Muslim correctional officer in Bordeaux, Quebec, who wished to wear a religiously-mandated headscarf, or hijab, was "entirely unnecessary."
http://www.caircan.ca/itn_more.php?id=2887_0_2_0_M
as if they need the money..They have a gargantuan edifice AC in D.C. funded by Lord knows who..but they wont stop until we are under shaaaaaaaaaaaaariah.
sickening..spit!
My new Irish website is up AC!
http://therepublicofireland.blogspot.com/
Drink Guinness responsibly!
Patrick
Can someone define Sharia for me. How does the Sharia law differ than the Law reveiled to Moses?
Ciao
Can someone explain what is the difference between the Sharia law and the law reveiled to Moses
That would be a good question if you dont already know the answer Lebanese. I find it hard to believe that anyone could be ignorant of the difference, unless you are a very recent immigrant from Lebanon and was brought up in little contact with Christians/Western Culture.
They are all people of the book. However, Muslims have adopted the customs of the Arabic moon Gods and the cultures of their conquered people.
Followers of Moses's laws do not advocate covering women in burkas. Nor do they advocate the stoning of women for crimes like infidelity.
Intolerance of other religions is not encrypted into Moses Law like Sharia. There are no Christian or Jewish Apartheid cities like Mecca or Medina. Apostates do not face the death penalty either.
Finally there is no existing concept similar to Jihad that justifies suicide bombings against civilians.
There is quite a large difference in practice and in theory.
Your use of two different aliases for the same comment suggests that you are a troll, but I decided to answer your question in a straight-forward manner anyway. It helps to clarify this difference.
fn...I was just going to delete the troll's questions, but since you gave such a complete and thorough answer there is no need.
The correct answer to the silly question of Lebanese in America is that the laws of Moses apply only to Jews. Non Jews were merely expected to live up to the seven Noachide laws.
Jewish law does not contain Jim Crow like provisions such as Jiyzah, Kharaj or proscribe how non Jews should live. Sharia unlike Jewish law is placed on non Muslims both in theory and in practice.
However, Lebanese in the US may remeed him or herself for being percieved as a dullard by stating the following "There is no greater relevation ever given to mankind than The Crank Files. Beamish in 08" ten times.
in what direction should they face when reciting that, beak? st. louis? hehehehe...
Can someone explain what is the difference between the Sharia law and the law reveiled to Moses
Great question! Unfortunately, that answer could run longer than this thread has bandwidth, so I'll keep it very elementary and simple.
First and foremost, Jewish Law is understood both as oral law (Talmud) and written law (Torah). One can read many contradictions and mysteries in Torah text that would make it impossible to understand if not for the explanations that came from the traditions and explanations that date back to the times of Moses himself.
Sometimes Torah is literal, sometimes figurative, sometimes a little of both, and sometimes completely cryptic. We can't possibly know the laws of Kashrut if it weren't for the oral law, we couldn't possibly know the way to observe laws of proper dress without oral law, we couldn't understand our calendar without oral law, and many of the laws people take from Leviticus and compare to the brutality of Islam are totally off base when not put in the perspective and context of the oral law's divinely legal explanation.
The Torah is God's shorthand, if you will, to what the oral law explains in painstaking detail.
The oral law was codified in the Mishnah in writing for the first time in 200CE. We were forbiddon to write oral law until this time, but with the destruction of the temple and the dispersion of the Jews it was decided by the rabbis that the oral tradition MUST be put uin writing lest the understanding of Jewish Law as given to us from Sinai be lost forever.
Islam is practiced on the writings in the Koran that were written by operatives of Mohammed who were said to be writing down his actual words. Those words are considered directly from God to Mohammed and are to be taken literally.
The Hadith are sayings that others allegedly heard about Mohammed which discusses the way moslems are supposed to live. However, they are not entirely accepted as law and they are valued much lower than the words directly in Koran. Call it a poor man's attempt at Talmud.
Anyway, to answer your question, Sharia Law is a literal lifestyle to obey what is written in the Koran, though what that exactly means can vary from tribe to tribe, movement to movement. Notice the Sunni and Shia don't exactly see eye to eye, and tend to believe in totally different Hadiths.
Moslems do all agree on some things that are clearly outlined in Koran, though: Islam is a religion of conquest and all mankind must either submit or become slaves. Jihad and dhimmitude are universal tenets of islam. Martyrdom to those ends is considered holy. Takiya is a strategy of lying, cheating, or stealing to advance the cause of Islamic conquest.
That is why Islam at the core is a terrorist organization, and is why we must not think for a moment we can somehow win their favor with good will gestures or concessions.
Hope that helped, Elimosa.
All in All it was a really good question.
Thanks Lebanese...
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Brilliant thread on the comparison of Sharia and Moses law.
But back to the CAIR lawsuit. If I were a passenger on the flight, could I grounds for a lawsuit aganist the imans for "mental anguish" and a developing phobia to praying muslims on airliners?
Have pleasant St. Pats
The "praying imams" was most certainly a publicity stunt, one with an agenda.
I grow weary of CAIR's shennanigans. When will our government finally call them a terrorist organization?
American Crusader I clicked on your cross and went to the website its from. They had a page on "the Talmud unmasked" under the section "enemies of Christianity" that's basically an anti-semitic tirade. I know many of the claims in it aren't true. I get the impression you are a supporter of Israel and probably didn't notice that was there so I thought I better tell you.
If you want to see it yourself, there's a link to it on the bottom of this page
http://www.christusrex.org/
that leads to this page-
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmudx.htm#Talmud%20Unmasked
SAY IT, OSONS!
Happy St. Patrick's Day!
(Where you been AC?)
Daniel/St. Patrick beat me to the punch again!
AC, Happy St. Patty's Day to you and your readers.
BTW...I've added another quote to my site:
There is no proof that Muhammad attained perfection and the ability to perfect others as claimed...that is why, to this day we never see anyone converting to Islam unless in terror, or in quest of power, or to avoid heavy taxation, or to escape humiliation, or if taken prisoner, or because of infatuation with a Muslim woman, or for some similar reason.
Nor do we see a respected, wealthy, and pious non-Muslim well versed in both his faith and that of Islam, going over to the Islamic faith without some of the aforementioned or similar motives
-- philosopher Ibn Kammuna
Lebanese did ask a great question but never intended to hear the answer.
I apologize for not making my rounds this last week. Hopefully this week I'll have the time to properly visit my favorite sites.
anonymous..I will look into that. Thanks
Concerning Christians" does promote anti-semetic views. Even though later teachings disavowed these teachings, I decided to make the change anyways.
The current flag, although very similar is the " Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land".
The flag for the Roman Catholic Church's Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land, flying outside the Custody's US headquarters, the Franciscan Monastery in Washington, DC. It is white with a red Jerusalem cross (a cross potent with a crusil in each angle). This design is attributed as the arms of the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem (but in yellow on white), and is used for the Papal Order of the Holy Sepulchre. The Franciscan friars working for the Custody wear the Jerusalem cross embroidered in red on the left breast of their brown robes. The symbolism is variously attributed to the five crosses representing the five wounds of Christ or to the message of the Gospel (the large cross) being carried to the four corners of the earth.
Joe McMillan, 27 April 2000
We have to refuse to be intimidated, if someone makes someone report them for weird behavior, then that person should be sued by the passengers for causing them distress with their behavior.
These Imams were faking and goofing on the passengers, and were probably trying to get tossed off the plane just so they could play the victim card and go to court and make a scene. Any judge who allows this is garbage.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
pretend to be terrorists
scare people on a plane
get thrown off claim racism
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